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There's a really good post yesterday on Valeria Maltoni's Conversation Agent blog all about brand position and looking at the case of Tiffany Co. It's also worth looking at the comment by gianandrea facchini that what makes gucci profitable is [Read More]

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Roger von Oech

Valeria,

I, too, read that WSJ article last week and thought, "Huh? What?"

Thanks for your take. It makes a little more sense to me now.

gianandrea facchini

valeria, luxury companies do mix high end products with entry level a lot of time. what makes gucci profitable is the number of wallets they sold. by far where they, and a lot of others, get the money is the grey area around the flagship products.
some other companies do choose to brand and sale second lines with increasing price, as mr tod's did with hogan and pomellato did with dodo. at the beginning in the same store and then in separate installments.
and at the end it's true that what appeals to mass market is what high-end customers shy away from but mass markets customers are millions!

Richard Dowling

I would have to agree that if a high-end brand goes for the mass-market, it risks devaluing the brand.

In your previous post you mentioned that Ferrari is part owned by Fiat--I'm sure that Ferrari's would lose much of their appeal if they were sold under the Fiat brand.

And, in response to one of the comments above, yes, the mass-market is millions but once the brand loses its desirability then those millions will go away and you will have lost your original high-end clients.

But this is one of the reasons for having seperate brands!

Valeria Maltoni

Roger -- thank you for stopping in. Well, I think I might have solved the mystery in the WSJ article. If not, Tim Manners at Reveries might be helpful http://reveries.com/?p=883.

Gianandrea -- right you are that certain brands get mileage out of extending their cache' to different lines. However, if you think about little doggie coats, you might not be so ready to spend so much on a Burberry coat for yourself.

Richie -- your comment dovetails nicely in that a luxury brand should learn to go only so far before it becomes commoditized and begins to lose its luster. Much better to have separate brands... but then we encounter Tiffany's dilemma: the aspirational buyers may not want a perceived lesser brand.

gianandrea facchini

richard, the ability of the performing luxury brands is in fact, to retain their desiderability on the high end products (bags for 10.000 usd) and market for the lower end products (wallet for 100 usd). high end customers are not endangered in their perception and the rest of us dream about.

Stephen Denny

I'm a big believer in finding ways of bringing very high end luxury brands to a larger audience -- Gianandrea's note about Gucci wallets explains this well.

Making a high end brand "accessible" is one thing -- making it "mass market" is usually disastrous. Owning Porsche sunglasses is relatively cheap compared to owning a 911. But you can own a little piece of the Porsche cache, and that's worth it. This is a first step in trading people up and into a brand.

So what did you buy? Come on. Tell us.

Valeria Maltoni

Stephen:

Yes, that is the point Gianandrea was making and what puzzled me about Tiffany's decision to forsake some of its success with the silver line of products.

Armani used the Emporio concept to sell an edgier version of his fashion to a younger crowd; it's working in both keeping the name brand awareness and maintaining the cache for the premium brand.

I didn't buy anything this trip. I was conducting field research remember?

Kristasphere

Ah so that's what made those bracelets so hot! I'm not in the 'teen'demographic by a long shot so this tipping point missed me.

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