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Valeria,

As I mentioned to Becky, I haven't purchased a car from a dealer in 20 years. I don't need the hassle nor do I need the feeling that I am getting ripped off.

Valeria,
It's nice you have that good relationship with a dealer. Finding that "straight talk" you mention is not easy!

Lewis -- I don't look forward to a new car purchase for the very same reason. And the issues with transparency and trustworthiness transfer on to mechanics as well.

Patrick -- my relationship is with a person or a few people at the dealer. There's no question that things would change if they all left.

Anyone else found a way to make the process enjoyable? After your house, this is the second biggest purchase you will ever make!

It seems most of the BrandingWire pundits, including me, have a pretty negative perception of the auto dealership. Nice to know you've found a user-friendly one. But I'm pretty sure they suffer just by being an auto dealer. I'll bet they would rather be able to position their operation outside of the dealership category.

There are some good dealers out there! The idea of customer service is foreign to too many dealers, though.

My motorcycles have come from "excellent", "okay" and "you're still in business?" dealers. But at least they didn't leave me to "think" about it...

Motorcycle dealers are having to learn how to sell to women, though. It's a different process than selling to guys: the sales effort is defined by talking to the customer. (There's a concept for you...)

Overall, I prefer the American/British system of (nominally, or maybe "supposedly") independent dealers to the factory-controlled dealers of Europe. The pub trade in Britain suffered with the loss of the independent publican; the choices were dictated by some anonymous "weenie" over in Head Office, and not by what the guy-with-a-stake-in-the-business thought.

So while the dealership is supposed to add costs (I'm not convinced it does), the fact that competition exists is good. If I don't like Dealer X, I'll go to Dealer Y.

To echo your example, Valeria: my Ducati dealer knows that if they don't provide superior service, I'll simply take the bike elsewhere. It's irrelevant to me if I have to go 35 miles or 135 miles; if the service warrants it, I'll drive that far. My Vespa dealer didn't understand that; they lost my business. (I took it to the other end of Delaware for a service, rather than go to my dealer, who was closer.)

But to make things better, American auto dealers need to understand the customer better. The factories need to be more responsive (they still act as if they control the market), and the dealers need to realize that they have to be more "people friendly" if they're going to win customers.

I have the distinct impression that auto dealers think in terms of "units sold", and not in terms of "customer satisfaction": that's something the factory claims to think about. It's an expensive purchase, and it should be addressed in that manner: not as if you're shopping for slightly more expensive Corn Flakes.

Besides offering cars that people actually want to buy, that change would help the American auto industry.

Carolyn Ann

Martin:

I think there is some truth to that. The sales reps I talk to who work for car dealers are not too happy to be identified with the system as it stands today. Some actually do want to do a good job for the customers.

Carolyn Ann:

Indeed the emphasis is still on the units sold, even for the best experiences. I called my rep only after I was sure I wanted to buy a specific car and model and gave him all the information to get a number of choices for me to test drive once I went in.

But, and here's the difference, I can call him at any time for help with anything related to my purchase and he's come through for me numerous times.

Is it possible that a newer generation of people getting involved in auto dealership can shift the focus more to customers? It seems that the old timers have gotten used to the way things were...

Valeria,

Every time an auto spot comes on TV, I say the same thing to my wife: "I've never gotten interested in a car because of a TV ad."

1. I don't buy American made cars. Too many bad experiences with sales, service, and quality, as well as the craziness of every feature being an "add-on" to price.

2. I've had great experiences with German cars for the past 25 years. I buy them through a local certified mechanic who specializes in them and always knows who is trading up.

The one time that I bought from a dealership, the experience cost me more money and didn't deliver a better product.

Punchline: I trust the guy who knows the insides, doesn't make the bulk of his living off of hustling cars, and has served me well for many years.

The auto industry's "middle men" add to the price and detract from the experience.

Steve:

Thank you for taking the time to stop in. You raise another interesting point I did not flesh out in my post -- used cars. With the exception of my first Camry, which was new, I always buy newer used or floor models.

Sometimes I treat myself to an upgrade on the interior -- so leather seats with seat warmers or 6 CD reader for example. I refuse to lose a couple thousand bills just for the pleasure of driving off the lot in a new car. And Toyota has excellent warranties and a track record with floor models.

Anyone else take advantage of floor models for their car purchases?

I came across this set of articles while on another mission, and I must say that this is a terrific idea. The bad news is that I have to collate all of these posts into one place and pre-digest for my bosses. This all needs to get set up on a forum!

The auto industry is on the brink of a seismic change - for good or ill.

Valeria - The brand beehive idea is a powerful one as many dealers have multiple locations and they could easily present a lifestyle focus at each location without completely alienating the other customers. But you're right about not being all things to all customers. The one size fits all mentality of dealerships has created a huge image problem for them.

Stephen -- hopefully you received my message about checking out the BrandingWire site where we aggregate all these posts every month. Are you speaking about the auto industry change from knowledge? Or maybe you have ideas to suggest here?

Kevin -- wish I could take the credit for the beehive idea; it was iconocultures's. One way to have personal experiences at dealerships is for service to be customer oriented. My sales rep asked me what is important to me to feel I have had a successful transaction. Little details like that make a big difference is perception.

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