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Robyn

Hi Valeria, I stopped by this morning because your misspelling of picnic as "Pincnic" in your title tickled my juices to see what this was all about. OK, now you know. :-)

Have a great one.

Valeria Maltoni

Good morning to you, Robyn. That's what happens when you write at midnight ;-) Thank you for stopping by. I hope the conversation itself will stimulate your creativity.

Robyn

Hi Valeria, I was very stimulated by all the different dishes you brought to the picnic. Kept me thinking!

Carolyn Ann

I can't say I agree with idea that media is supposed to "simplify" the world. The news media exists to explain the world, not simplify it!

Or should all media follow the example of Fox News?

They simplify, and they lose context, information and accuracy in the process. The Economist doesn't simplify, but elucidates the story as simply and as accurately as possible. And that is a world of difference from "simplifying" the news.

Simplifying things in order to understand them is a perfectly legitimate activity - in the right context. Simplifying the news so you can understand it? I'd suggest the proponent of that point of view simplify their reading habits to include children's books. "Idiots" is a term I'd use on my own blog for such a proposal!

Metadata and data are not the same: one describes the data. They share some of the same attributes, but only as an abstraction. They are clearly not the same!

To argue they are would be argue that a description of a picture is, in effect, the same as the picture. Which is nonsense: metadata, or information about information, is a method of describing the data. It is not the same as the information itself.

Unless you decide to simplify everything. Like a Fox News story, maybe? Or an argument that misunderstands what media is.

The "social proximity" thing continues the theme of mistaken simplicity. We have a primitive form of this with the blogroll/technorati thing. But I can't help but think that what this idea proposes is the "cult of personality". Just like in school, some people will be more popular than others. But popularity is always mistaken for "competence"; I point to the various popular stars being asked their opinion on world events as evidence. Yes, they have an opinion, but that in no way credits them with competence in the subject they are opining on! (Bono, Geldof, Jolie, and a few others excepted. They have credibility because they have taken time to become familiar with the subjects.)

I think Charles Dickens observed this (Great Expectations), as well as that wild man of language, Bill Shakespeare. (Was it in "Richard 2nd"? I can't remember! Sorry.)

Simplicity is a fine concept, but it has a context that has to be observed. Simplifying the news (information) is a definite no-no - unless your name is "Hannity", "Coulter", "North" or some other name usually associated with the simplifying dimwits of Fox News.

Carolyn Ann

PS I guess I should offer some apology for being so caustic. The premise that the news should be simplified irritated me, though. I'm an adult, and I can read: I think I can hold a complex idea in my head. More than one, in fact. In fact, I'd guess that most of us can do that, too. So, I won't offer an apology. I think the guy who suggested that the news should be simplified for apologize for suggesting that we're all as dim as he thinks we are. /CA

Valeria Maltoni

Thank you, Robyn. I do enjoy our exchanges here and at Brain Based Business.

Carolyn Ann -- yes, I think the attempt to capture any one thought so that it fits nicely into a bucket may lead us astray. I'm a fan of in depth reports and opinions. I admire writers like Mr. Giussani who is based in Switzerland and can read and think/write in many languages -- expansively and pointedly. While Weinberger seemed to err on the side of chaos, Keen seems to weigh too heavily on the side of short attention spans. As I'm found of saying, the truth or "a" truth usually makes its home somewhere in between. I buy your distinction of simplicity vs. simplifying.

Regarding social proximity... I am fully prepared for people being unpredictable, complicated (in a good way), and immersed in their own lives. You bring up the concept of visibility and popularity. There is an aspirational transfer -- someone is liked, we would love to be liked, their ideas and opinions must be good because they are liked, etc.

I have always been a proponent of not going for the minimum common denominator in education. I think that sometimes that provides an excuse for not trying. Then again, I was trained in classical studies -- lots of richness and meaning in Greek and Latin works.

Robyn

We have to learn to simplify and provide specific details at the same time. Sometimes I need to hear a synopsis of the news expressed simply, but with great clarity. There is complexity in expressing ideas simply.

On the other hand, when I want to review the specific details I go to the New York Times and dig deeper. Sometimes, given our own circumstances we come to catch the news with a very different purpose. In my mind we need both.

Thanks, Carolyn Ann, for helping us see another view.

Admin

For the poll, I think I like the 3D online immersion the best. With Second Life being so popular and all those new animation movies coming out, I think it is one area that is being developed faster than the others.

GianlucaArnesano

Hi Valeria, I've been there and I can confirm what Giussani reported (who couldn't).
It has been a full immersion into experiences and ideas and inspirations.
Of course debates derives from different point of views, but what is important is having an event like that to share ideas and toughts
... by the way Europe Alliance of Creative Conferences is coming.

Valeria Maltoni

Robyn --
Exactly. We have the tools to research deeper, the circumstance determines what and how we choose to read.

Gianluca -- I should have thought of you being there with your company based in the Netherlands. Giussani's point of view agrees with mine most of the time; and I'm familiar with his writing in print as well. It may be a product of thinking and operating in more than one language.

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