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Joe Raasch

Hi Valeria,

This post instantly brought to mind one of your best posts (IMHO) EVER:

"How do you go from Start to Success?" from 26 March 2007.

In this post you answer the question (for me...) on how to resolve the tension between one's true North/personal brand and the company's brand.

ROI = Return On Influence is a key concept in the talent management field as well. Sure, hire great people. The question to ask is: can we profit from this 'talent'? If not, we're not matching skill/will/resource of our new hires to our mission. Which then leads our teams to ask the questions you pose above.

This "return on influence" approach has far-reaching impact...dare I say INFLUENCE!

Pier Luca Santoro

Dear Valeria,
It has been, once again, a great idea to ask via twitter to readers and followers/fellows the topics for the posts of the week. This really IS conversation. Thanks to have chosen the one I suggested.
Every one writing on this topic is discussing the qualitative elements that best describe return on influence and some months ago I tried to do so as well [http://www.marketingblog.it/return-on-influence/social-media/users-media/consumer-media/new-media/influenzare-gli-influenzatori/opinion-leaders/engagement/roi--roi-from-return-to-investment-shifting-to-return-on-influence.htm ]
I'm asking my self - and to you and your readers/contributors - how to shift from qualitative to quantitative measurements as we tried to point out a today in our collaborative space Marketing Agorà [http://marketingagora.wordpress.com/2007/10/30/numerica-ponderata/ ]
Once we will have made a Map on these items I'll send it to you to keep talking about this important subject.
Ciao.
Pier Luca Santoro

Valeria Maltoni

@Joe -- fit is important at so many levels: culture, job type, team, etc. The outcomes in alignment, performance, influence, etc. all depend on fit. Thank you for helping me flesh out that point. So how you enroll yourself to help others get results while you fulfill your mission goes to satisfy that tension.

@Pier Luca -- I posed the question back on Twitter. So far, no takers. It's a hefty one because I think that part of influence is quality of thought. But, I know there are specific actions we take as a result of influence so possibly what we measure is the outcome from those actions. It's kind of like what your customers' customers do in a B2B model. You inspired me to push further, thank you!

John

Lots of companies are trying to sell this stuff - but just ask the simple question can you actually quantify an intangible. Of course not. Measure and remeasure everything you can but don't assume everything is quantifiable. If it were, we'd all be outsourced.

Pier Luca Santoro

@Valeria: Thanks again to you. As I said we are thinking about making a map with all the terms related with influence and then try to give them a value.
The method should be - more o less -like Forrester's external blog ROI or mine about internal blog ROI. As you know we made a wiki to collaborate , also, on this topic........if you wish to join you are welcome.

@John: We are not trying to sell nothing just fed up [not in reference to you, obviously] with opinions would like to shift to facts/data.

Ciao.

Pier Luca Santoro

Valeria Maltoni

@John -- thank you for this delicious comment, I will post a whole thought on this very idea of things that are not quantifiable yet extremely valuable tomorrow.

@Pier Luca -- I saw the wiki, the eye can consume much more than the physical body right now. No worries, I will circle back with you all, in time.

Gavin Heaton

Return on Influence is a great way of looking at social media metrics. There is a real need for some tools in this space ... and I think they need to be imagined in a completely new way.

Valeria Maltoni

@Gavin -- if you come out with something good, please broadcast. We're are all looking for proof that is more than just "try it, you'll see". I'm working on some ideas myself, very stealthily.

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