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Geoff Livingston

Thank you for sharing your blogs stats and how you see them working from an influence standpoint. It's interesting to see the discussion about what the right outcome is from blog post to blog post. As you can imagine, it varies greatly by organization and mission.

Valeria Maltoni

The reason why I thought it was interesting to share the numbers is because they matter only if you look at reach from a purely dispassionate level. From the figures you may infer that many people find the material here worthwhile to comment on and come back to.

To me a case study would be what has anyone improved, learned, undertaken as a result of inspiration and material read here?

It was a very late night (or early morning) effort ;-) I would love to hear from frequent readers. Has the content kept up with quality and impact to them?

This is a relevant discussion for the reasons I listed up front. When embraced, these tools can really help get everyone talking and sharing.

Marta Kagan

Thanks, Valeria, for the invitation to contribute to this discussion. There's such confusion—and in many cases, resistance—to implementing social media campaigns, that I feel the effort to demonstrate ROI is vital to successful adoption.

Take for instance a recent study by TWI Surveys, Inc. (on Behalf of Society for New Communications Research) which surfaces the following interesting data points:

- 70% of mar/comm professionals are currently spending 2.5% or less of their communications budgets on conversational marketing
- Two-thirds plan to increase their investment in conversation within the next twelve months
- 57% project that in five years they will be spending more on conversational marketing than traditional marketing

Clearly, the medium is still in its infancy.

But there are some who've been diligent about measuring its impact—like the pros referenced in this posting. Another great player in the space worth a look is BzzAgent (www.BzzAgent.com). Not only do they have case studies and a great white paper on measurability of their WOM marketing efforts, but they're walking their talk: Their "90 Days" blog project (http://90days.bzzagent.com/) blows the roof off the idea of "transparency".

Finally, consider implementing the Net Promoter Score as a means of measuring social media campaign impact. Strictly defined, NPS is "% of Promoters - % of Detractors". It's not a pure ROI calculation, but it gets to the root of whether a customer/reader/community member would recommend you—or not—as a percentage of the total activity on your social media platform.

Keep the dialogue going! Let's blaze some new trails...

Kami Huyse

From a personal blogging standpoint these are interesting figures. What do you learn from these stats and what changes have you made because of them.

For instance, awhile back I moved my subscribe option to the top right of my blog and saw my susbscriptions double in just a month.

Valeria Maltoni

Thank you, Marta. And welcome to the conversation with such a rich array of resources to add to the topic. The interesting thing is that some companies are scurrying to figure this social media thing out. As reported in the ST:

"American Express has sent groups of employees to "Cool School" seminars run by digital strategy agency Electric Artists. Employees spend the day visiting companies like IAC/Interactive Corp and discussing trends like social networking and virtual worlds. Cool School sessions cost between $30,000 and $75,000 a day, says Marc Schiller, founder of Electric Artists, of New York."

So those of us who have learned how to do this should (notice the conditional) get an audience ready to learn. The truth is that companies -- and many marketing managers -- are hard pressed to figure out where it fits and because of non advertised ROI many do not get buy in from management.

I'll look into the Net Promoter Score, good tip!

Valeria Maltoni

Kami:

I made the subscribe widget bigger as well as enabled it at the footer of each post with feed flare. I had noticed that I had a hard time finding the subscribe button on blogs authored by other people and ended up bookmarking them, which of course is not as efficient.

For plug and play I made a change in the layout going from one long sidebar to the right to two shorter sidebars to the left. This makes my blog friendlier to read on small screens for right handed people -- we can zoom in the body of the post more easily. In addition to the friendlier sidebars, I wanted to give people more clues on what I was reading and why. So I split the long blogroll into shorter and topical (to my focus and that of readers who come here) sections. That also makes it easier for people to connect with others they may not know from the same category. Which is in line with the offering in my tag line.

The third major change I implemented (that led to increased page views) was shorter posts more often and breaking up longer posts better visually. Especially now that I view the blog from a bigger screen, I can see how I challenged my readers visually.

Greg Verdino

Thanks for the tag Valeria - I'll respond in kind over at my joint next week. G

David Reich

You've given me something to think about...I'll let you know when I post my response at my 2 cents in the next few days.

Regards, Valeria.

Roger von Oech

Interesting takes all around.

As I've said on another forum, all those metrics are fine but for me personally the most important number is my Google Page Rank (which for me is a 6). I found that when my GPR went from a 5 to 6 last February, my number of visitors went up significantly.

I tend to pay less attention to Technorati. One's T'rati score can easily go up a 100 (or more points) simply if your on a list that's going around the web. That reminds me of high school popularity contests.

Since I celebrated my one-year anniversary last September, I've tried to think a lot less about the metrics. This has helped make blogging more fun. After all, it's all so ephemeral!

Valeria Maltoni

@Greg -- I look forward to reading your take, and to meeting in NYC in the not too distant future.

@David -- likewise, I am very interested in your approach.

@Roger -- well, I must say I have not really seen any appreciable traffic increase from PR6 yet. It may be too soon to say. The ROI exercise here was more to demonstrate the value of blogging and social media to organizations. If I'm here every night after a 10-hour work day, I clearly see value in being here ;-)

Tom O'Brien

I agree that measurement is crucial for the development of all of these social media tools. Our (MotiveQuest) own approach to social media measurement is called the Online Promoter Score - a measure of people's willingness to advocate for or recommend your brand/product in online conversations (forums, blogs, newsgroups).

More here:

http://humanvoice.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/social-media-measurement/

Tom O'Brien

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