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Paul Soldera

Hey Valeria, I agree. There is a strong tendency to compare Apple and MS and that comparison isn't completely valid. For instance, many Vista problems are caused by the need to be compatible with a vast installed base of software (and hardware). Apple has no where near the same magnitude of issues. That's not an excuse, it's just a reality MS faces that Apple doesn't. Apple uses this to its advantage - that's good Marketing. They are directing the brand conversation atm. MS isn't.

MS needs to take back the conversation. Play to their strengths. It's appalling that Apple has got so much mileage from this campaign with no MS response.

Chris Baskind

"Taking back the conversation" will be easier said than done. It's not just the Vista disaster (and it is just that, an unqualified disaster): Microsoft has spent kajillions of dollars positioning themselves as the enterprise operating environment. It's tough to then pivot and say, "Oh, we're really cool, too."

Simply copying Apple's ironic hipster vibe won't work, though if anyone has the cops, it would be Boguski and his crew. They'll have to find a new message and go from there, one aspect of their business at a time.

Tell you what Microsoft *does* have that's genuinely hip to the younger audience MS seems to covet: the Xbox. It's the most vibrant gaming platform, but I doubt even its hardcore consumers think of it as a Microsoft product.

So there's the thin wedge waiting for Boguski: Xbox brand extension. Start by giving the Xbox a killer touch screen and gaming capability -- and market it as the Xbox Micro (which just happens to be a media player, too).

Next year, the Xbox Micro becomes a tablet device that will run full versions of Xbox's game library under Windows 7. Oh, yeah, it's also a portable computer that handles all of MS's flagship software. Works best if you mate it with the new Xbox Media Center on Windows 7, available free on all OEM desktops and laptops.

I know nothing about Marketing, but I'm thinking the Xbox play would deliver maximum grief to Cupertino. It would bring youth and coolness back to Microsoft without attempting to undo millions of dollars worth of existing brand impressions. Better to steer the ship than move the iceberg.

Paul Soldera

A touchscreen Xbox that becomes a tablet PC and runs the full range of console games under Windows 7? Last thing they need is another product that has no hope of working :).

Valeria Maltoni

@Paul - the campaign has gotten a bit ridiculous. I quite prefer when companies (and people) play to their strengths vs. against something else. It helps everyone and nobody has to be right.

@Chris - in many cases it is better to stir the ship than to move the iceberg, as you put it. However, I do wonder if putting back into the cool game all the things about MS that are seen as "uncool" would be a detriment. I'm not so sure convergence is the way to go. I do like the idea of extension products, but not in the usual MS direction.

@Paul - when someone asks me for a designed template version of Word for Windows I want to cry. It's the most unstable program on the face of the earth.

Austin White

Valeria I think part of the success of apple has been toward the minimal approach more than the hype. The recent commercials with the mac and PC have been more poking fun.

More importantly how has the switch been for you? Are you glad?

Valeria Maltoni

My take is design of experience. Marketing is embedded in the products. Take for example my iPod. On the back of the box it says: "Like a fine pair of jeans, iPod nano colors may vary and change over time." That is marketing!

I've had little issues with adapting to the Mac ways - the usability is *that* intuitive. And I truly love my iMac and iPhone.

Thank you for asking.

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