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My brain has latched on to this interview by Mark Earls with Hugh MacLeod at GapingVoid, and it wont let go. Thanks to Valeria for originally doing the latching.  Ive copied Valerias excerpt of Marks ranting below just to g... [Read More]

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Mike Driehorst

In some ways, brand definitely is the be-all, end-all -- isn't it? Brand is the sum of the passion, the whats, the whys and other aspects that make up a company, association or individual.

A company can impact its brand by how it markets itself, how its people work with customers, the community, and other ways.

The brand also is how a company is perceived -- how the company's actions are accepted.

A positive brand is your destination -- of what you want to be. Things like noted above (marketing, your people, etc. and how they are perceived) are the directions.

Granted, sometimes you get lost, but good companies will right themselves.
-Mike

Valeria Maltoni

I look at it as the container. I like how you talk about direction. I now wish my good friend Peter saw your remark, as he is very insightful on direction. Thank you for opening up a new avenue with your comment. Sometimes we get lost as individuals.

MikeTrap

Not sure this approach to defining a brand is much more actionable than the non-definition that exists everywhere.

For me a brand boils down to a collective emotional response. All of the above are levers in driving that response, but they are not the brand itself.

Views of one McCann/FCB/Ogilvy alum, FWIW. http://miketrap.wordpress.com/2007/05/04/brands/

Valeria Maltoni

Good thinking there, Mike. Thank you for sharing. I go back to being a marketer and wanting to tell the story of how a product or service helps customers. We have come to define those activities as branding (metaphor).

Brett Duncan

It's amazing how such a central theme of marketing is so fuzzily defined.

In addition, we all feel like we have to have our own definition of it, which is why there are so many definitions to begin with.

Love the quotes from the interview; I'm about to go check the whole thing out.

Here is my own confession that I really don't know what "brand" is, either, with a collection of other marketing stars' opinions: http://www.marketinginprogress.com/2007/02/17/branding-is-the-difference/

Peter

Personally, I don't find brand a helpful concept in business.

Brand is my being in business. It is the potentiality of all my consequences that only becomes real and tangible in the presence of another. Then disappears to travel forward in time to greet me again in the presence of another.

As rightly pointed out brand is a consequence - that becomes ill shaped the more you try and shape it. My advice is to look less at your brand and more at what you trade and receive in return - but more on what you recieve in return.

Of course if your brand is misshaped to begin with..

Always a pleasure to stop by.

richardatdell

Hi Valeria

Enjoyed the post...and agree that is a really interesting interview. I just finished reading Mark Earl's book, the Creative Age. Hugh recommended I read it. Check it out if you get a chance....worth the read and raises a lot of interesting questions about traditional marketing assumptions

Nice to stop by and catch up with your blog. thanks for the enjoyable posts and perspectives

Valeria Maltoni

@Brett - the desire to have one's own definition probably comes from the need to "control" the message and conversation. I have experienced that in my career when colleagues who did not understand business = marketing at every step of the way and who never practiced it expected to take over the function or dictate how it is done. Indeed, brand is what you get as a result of doing right by your customers. Thank you for continuing the conversation.

Valeria Maltoni

@Peter - brand is the sum total of expressions and impressions - both an intention and a consequence. It's about who you are as a business and what you manifest as a result of your being that. Or, if your brand is dysfunctional... I have noted how many business transactions go south because they start from an assumption that embeds a lie.

@Richard - glad you mentioned the book as I have just spent a delightful evening with Mark himself talking about challenging artificial constructs and the messiness of dealing with humans. Perhaps it is helpful to know that I do not come from traditional marketing, I come to marketing from an understanding of the behavioral sciences and communications. In fact, given my education, I'd probably go as far as stating that I come from conversation. Thank you for stopping by. I am honored that you did.

richardatdell

Hi Valeria,

I dont come out of marketing either. Political science and lobbying is my background before I landed in the USA :-)

Enjoy the weekend

Matthew T. Grant

Whoa. I was just telling someone today that brands are metaphors, and then I read this. So I was right after all!

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