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Sam Bradley

I began my career in print journalism, and I've stood in a small room next to the giant press of the Albuquerque Journal proofing papers until my fingers were the color of coal.

And I love the daily newspaper. So much so that I lamented their loss last month: http://www.commcognition.com/blog/newspapersrip/

But the model is dead. Within the past two weeks, there were two large earthquakes around the world, and I knew about each of them within 90 seconds on Twitter. Even CNN.com -- never mind the NY Times -- lagged by more than 15 minutes.

We still want analysis, and analysis takes time. So a bi-weekly or magazine format will survive. Although perhaps we'll learn to read even that online. Perhaps I'll someday embrace the Kindle.

Newspapers were printed on newsprint because it was a cost-efficient delivery mechanism, not because it was ordained by a deity on the mount.

I, too, have waxed a bit too nostalgic.

The line between public relations and journalism becomes more blurred online. Say what you will about newspapers, but every one that I ever worked for had very clear policies about that line. I once sent a $10 check to the local hospital because the meeting I covered was catered.

Many people -- perhaps most -- online have an agenda. And we need to be wary about that. As much as you'll hear about media bias, those were institutions that tried to keep bias out. What will happen with bloggers who have no such desire?

We must save objectivity. It's the key to America's news values (interestingly, however, not everyone's). If Google can save objectivity, I'll let the newsprint die, even if I shed a tear along the way.

Objectivity will fight to maintain the division between editorial content and paid content. Without that, credibility is lost.

Carolyn Ann

Information does not want to be free. People just don't want to pay for it.

That's a big difference.

Carolyn Ann

(Information doesn't want anything; it's not alive.)

Valeria Maltoni

@Sam - It's funny and sad that the practices businesses adopt become so removed from the reasons why they were adopted (cost efficiencies in this case) and are so hard to change - whole economies have been built on stuff that doesn't make sense any more. We didn't have the daily newspaper delivery growing up back in Europe. But I remember the weeklies and we bought those in center city at the newspaper stand.

As a blogger, I have the desire to discover what works best, learn, and report what is observable. I come with a point of view, but then again everyone does. My agenda is the realization of human potential in every form, at every level.

I agree that it's difficult not to succumb to the vagaries of popularity, influence, and authority. But that's a conversation for another day.

@Corolyn Ann - yes, we have a hard time paying for things we think we can have for free. Then again, we get what we pay for.

Tiffany Monhollon

Valeria,
This is such an important conversation, and it doesn't stop at how newspapers (and advertising, for that matter) will survive without fundamentally new models that take the gatekeeper-is-everyone reality into account.

Ethics and transparency are key ideas here too. The comment from Joe is a great example. The processes inherent to journalism in the legacy media are based on the idea that through the editorial stream, a product will be produced and because of the ethics and standards inherent to the industry (SPJ codes) and the reputation of the masthead it can be trusted and held up as "truth." Thus, the journalist, interestingly, STILL sees themselves as the gatekeeper, even in our current media landscape. See http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/2008/Journalist%20report%202008.pdf

The processes in regards to truth when it comes to participatory content, such as blogging put this model in its head and say, I am a person or individual who is creating content the best that I personally know how, based on my own understanding of truth and the issue I am covering, and I will put it out there for public consumption, and together, we will comment on and wrestle with and refine this content until together, we all agree that the conversation we've had has helped us get at truth.

Interestingly, both bloggers and journalists both consider themselves ethical. They just define them differently.

When it comes to the question you pose, and that Joe gets at, financing of the media comes into play when we talk about audience credibility - especially in advertising (are advertisers given preference for coverage), corporate ownership and coverage, etc. I'm actually about to begin a study of journalists (and perhaps bloggers) on media transperancy in our current news landscape.

But in terms of how journalists see this, and their career options, the state of their profession, etc. that adds a whole new level to the discussion, it seems. Things worth considering. http://twitter.com/tmonhollon/status/1113133444

So thanks for joining in the conversation on this issue. It's giving me lots to think about.

Valeria Maltoni

Excellent point on coming at the ethical conversation from different points of view and history. Professionally, I've always been in charge of both advertising and PR. I do keep them separate and I have been turned off by trade publications that suggested they would give me preferential coverage for some advertising dollars. In a couple of lucky instances, the story/interview and the ad happened at the same time. Not engineered by us. I view it as church and state - I will sponsor content that makes sense to the company, especially online, to back up, but I will not pay for editorial.

There is a lot to think about. It's not just distribution of content. It's what content gets distributed, how it's produced, who pays for it, who ensures there remains integrity. That's why it's a pity seeing journalists try to become bloggers. We need solid reporting now more than ever.

Stephanie Inglis

As a former journalist who crossed over to 'the dark side' of marketing and PR, I can see both sides here. On one hand, I would hate to see print media in general--newspapers in particular--become a thing of the past. On the other, I love the near-real-time information sharing available with digital media.

As a marketer, the biggest problem with the digital realm right now is the lack of third-party verified audience data (see www.buysafemedia.com if you're not familiar with the concept). For print, we have independent circulation audits that allow us to pick the publication that best suits our goals for reaching a specific target audience. This is really important for trade press, where some of the niche products demand that you really get into some nitty gritty targeting.

I understand that the bigger media auditing organizations are working on some real breakthrough methodologies for online traffic measurement and verification. I say it can't come too soon!

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