This is a great question Deb Schultz asks - I, too tend to want to elevate the conversation from tactics to objectives and in this case cultural and organizational issues. We were discussing those very same basic principles she outlines in her post with Karl Long recently at SxSWi.
Karl just renamed his blog the Social Capitalist - building virtuous value networks. What does social capitalist mean? Given his experience curve in the digital environment, I'm sure we'll learn a lot from the evolution of his thinking.
Onto the story at hand.
The background
Recently, P&G got a number of agency people, media executives and others to Cincinnati to perform a Digital Hack Night. The idea was to use social media to get people to buy Tide t-shirts via tweets, hash tags, and other digital means with some of the proceeds going to Feed America. P&G brand managers with Deb Schultz acting as "social web sherpa" and various consultants and agency people tapped into their social networks dived into a marketing exercise to experience social media at work. AdAge summarized the exercise results:
Fewer than 150 media and marketing people leaning heavily on their social-media friends and followers, resorting to big-name incentives and spending a total of about $4,000 on digital media can sell more than 2,000 T-shirts at $20 a pop for charity and hit the top 10 trending topics on Twitter in the process.
According to David Armano, who was participating in the event:
At the end of 4 hours we were all told that we raised approx 50k and P&G matched that. That's 100k that will go to people who get get hit by the next Katrina.
Do check out the discussion at Brian Morrisey's blog - including a good back and forth with Stan Joosten, Innovation Manager, Holistic Communication Procter & Gamble - and that at Peter Kim's blog. I missed the tone issue on Twitter and agree with Alan Wolk who summarized some of the pitfalls, as well as the learning, in a comment:
I give them props for trying something unique and different and realizing that it's okay to take a risk. My friend Brian Morrissey often talks about how the ad community is afraid to take risks and how, as per Silicon Valley, we can learn as much from our mistakes as from our successes. So I think this was a smart move for P&G, or at the very least, a step in the right direction. It didn't cost them a whole lot and hopefully they learned from it. If they're able to see what they did right and what they did wrong and improve their effort next time, then it worked.
Thinking socially
In thinking how some principles and dynamics (Deb's points in bold) apply to corporations:
- Opening up & loss of control - there is still too much worry that people will copy what you're doing and not enough understanding of what happens if they don't even know you exist.
And, the rise of the personal brand (yes, I will do a follow up post on that) is making sure that customers are focused on themselves even more. What control did your organization have over them anyway?
- The collaborative & organic nature of the medium - this is the space where I tend to thrive from an early age and the reason why social anything suits me. I would make collaboration the first item on the corporate agenda across functions and departments. How you deal with rating that should not be the driver of how the company is structured. And you can still have personal initiative within a team.
- The power and dynamics of network effects - I really liked how Deb described the immediacy of the exercise and how people got creative. Too often, way too often, corporations call in the "experts" from agencies to be creative while they disregard the good ideas, energy, and ability to implement of their own people.
- The importance of constancy and participation vs big grand gestures - the constant gardeners inside organizations tend to be trampled by those who pre-empt with large gestures, especially in marketing. It's surprising that it would happen in a more consumer-oriented company, but not so that it would come from large organizations.
- The personal intimate nature of the medium - personal is not something that is encouraged inside organizations. That's a shame, because it's where innovation lives. When there is no attention paid to personal contribution, team work becomes committee or group think. And, let's face it, when it comes to domain of demonstrated expertise, it's not a democracy. Evolution will teach us you can have both - and without taking anything away from someone else to get credit.
- The importance of trust and relationship - it's not that corporations are populated by drones, or people who don't otherwise understand the fluid nature of relationships. They are, and they do. What happens is that rules and incentives have created habits. And habits are hard to break.
- The always on - 24/7 nature of the web - although many companies are now always on in terms of the flood of work and scarcity of resources, there is still hardly a sense that digital and social are integrated into a constant, and sometimes unorganized, flow. One can insert themselves into it at any point and make something happen through participation. Not a campaign or a program, just one long conversation activated in different ways, at different times.
I agree with Deb on the skills needed when she observes that teams needed a human connector to bring it all together and a catalyst to kick it off. I see this as a growing skill set in business as a result of the social web. That was one of the ideas behind Conversation Agent, the name leverages the qualities of the person and thus service behind it.
Some days it feels like wrangling cats - but that's because we still live in environments where it is in the best interest of each individual not to share, not to help, in fact often to stonewall. The result? What is cumulatively good for the company is not quite what customers want.
Working organically
I outlined it above. Working organically inside organizations is not easy. I'm pretty sure that many of the marketers at P&G are active in social media with their own names, as David Knox comments. I met David through links to this blog, just like I met many of my readers through their posts and comments.
In that respect, Adam Kmiec left a helpful comment to Peter Kim's post:
If the future is that all employees should be involved in activating their connections 3 things must happen:
1. Employees should be rewarded for the impact they make - this changes compensation structures
2. Personal brands must be embraced and supported; with rules needing relaxation so that employees aren't be stifled - can a corporate company really embrace this?
3. Partners will need to be held accountable as well. - If employees are expected to do this, shouldn't their agencies, packaging suppliers, etc.
We do learn by doing. Although this could have been executed a bit differently, it was executed nonetheless, instead of being a mere off site meeting by PowerPoint. Digital is having an impact on people’s lives in new ways. Change doesn’t happen overnight, but it does nonetheless.
How would you teach a large, process driven organization to be innovative, work organically, and think socially?
[image by Peter Kim]
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How can I teach Bloggers to not use such long title's on their posts so they can be retweeted properly. OK, I just had to say it:-) Hmm, I just received a tweet from someone who is having trouble with the link. It was probably cut short. So I have to cut this short and say great post, long title!
Posted by: mikeroblogger | March 24, 2009 at 08:18 AM
The best approach is explained above. I think you play a vital critical role in determining your behavior, attitude and persuading others.
Posted by: ReubenTimothy | March 24, 2009 at 09:21 AM
Valeria,
This is a fabulous case showing that even the most "unexpected*" players -and I do respectfully quote it as an "a priori*" here- are willing to take risk and jump into that "mysterious social network" nebulae". Who would have expected P&G there? Well they are coming in. I see it as a proof that about every business should at least stop by, start to listen and why not... engage conversation.
I like David Armano's perspective on people/brands "learning by doing". Isn't it how new brands proceed, in their early launching times? Now, pioneering vs innovation? whatever we call it, it indeed always begins by "opening up".
Posted by: Luc Debaisieux | March 24, 2009 at 11:32 AM
@Mikeroblogger - I just tested the shortened URL and it seems to work fine. Yes, the title is longer than what I usually write - it makes the case for the post without reading it, so maybe it's its own shortcut? BTW, when I emailed you a welcome note, it was bounced back as undeliverable.
@Reuben - thanks for stopping by.
@Luc - I just continue to be mystified when everyone keep saying that brands should be listening, participating, etc. and then have a heated debate when they work on doing it. It's not so easy from behind the corporate walls. My hat off to a company the size of P&G for putting the learning hat on. Hopefully they will have many ways to continue to connect. In fact, I'm surprised Dave Knox or his colleague didn't comment here. Perhaps because I already said so much :)
Posted by: Valeria Maltoni | March 24, 2009 at 10:26 PM
It's indeed not so easy from behind the corporate walls. And for companies the size of P&G, listening & participating are easier theoretical concepts than applied practices. I mean, I work myself for some large companies (in the financial sector) and they talk a lot about how they should behave in the new economy, but they have a lot of trouble practicing what they preach. But then, P&G doesn't really come as a surprise. The company is more "modern" than many would think, e.g., in the way it embraced collaborative innovation many years ago already.
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Posted by: Christian DE NEEF | March 25, 2009 at 06:42 AM
Valeria,
Right. My proposition was indeed a bit ironic and definitely not underestimating the "behind the corporate wall" effect. What I wanted to say is : if P&G did it, other companies might find a way as well. So yes, this is encouraging and thumbs up to P&G.
Posted by: Luc Debaisieux | March 25, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Don't underestimate the role of HR-policies regarding social media as a factor to be reckoned with when trying to implement social media participation. Staff is told with many companies to limit time spent on facebook and other social applications. Most companies are not only unprepared to give more voice to their customers - they have difficulties to give more autonomy to their employees to engage in conversations. To my experience, as long as higher management doesn't formulate an encouragement policy on blogging, engaging in social media and reacting on behalf of the company on public fora, employees and middle management will not be willing to go along, effectively blocking any effort towards a more engaging dialogue. It simply means that nobody will be willing to engage in experiments or building cases for future use.
Posted by: Frank Simkens | March 25, 2009 at 07:46 PM
@Christian - it's even hard to behave internally the way we should nowadays. Unless there is an environment of respect and integrity and a philosophy of service, you're not going to built the trust you need to operate in the social space.
@Luc - my comment wasn't aimed at you. I know you get it :) But rereading it, it came across that way. Oops. Good lesson.
@Frank - you got it. I think the issue is one of value. If companies do not see value in certain activities, they will discourage them. Value is often measured just in hard ROI and only in what comes in, not what doesn't come in. Testing is key.
Posted by: Valeria Maltoni | March 26, 2009 at 07:42 PM