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Philip Chang

Don't hire mercenaries to defend the fortress when you can build your own army. Yes, social media is best handled in-house.

On the subject of PR agencies, as social media becomes more integrated with other marketing disciplines, the ability to create and develop content, place media, and buy it becomes more important.

PR firms haven't acquired this capability, which is already baked into what most ad and digital agencies do.

Will PR Agencies go away? As we know them, yes. PR gets to lead marketing because of its baked-in credibility. But they must do more than consult on the messaging component.

PR's role in social media is rapidly becoming a case of, "We can do anything except everything else."


Kellye Crane

Valeria, hopefully my comment didn't come across as critical of this post - I think there's great discussion going on here. I meant to point out that we all see the world through our own lens, and Jason's post is from a pro-PR viewpoint (while this one is less so). We're in complete agreement that the PR pros who are fully engaged in social media are a subset of the profession as a whole (sad but true).

Rebecca Eras

It’s ironic that there are so many rules of engagement for such a fluid environment as social media.

I'm not a fan of the title of this blog, 4 Reasons PR Agencies Are Failing in Social Media, as it seems a bit harsh when everyone is essentially adapting and progressing with the ever-changing online trends, expectations and overall platforms. So while some may think their ways are foolproof, tomorrow the whole environment changes, and back to the drawing board to build upon existing knowledge.

And aside from blatant spamming, I don’t discourage pitching anyone unless they request not to be contacted. I don’t think bloggers are all that different than media either in terms of being human and responding to recognition, ingenuity, humour and a fitting story in general.

No matter who I’m pitching, I'm not comfortable hiding the fact that I have a story that may be of interest; and why pretend I’m just saying hello only to pitch later, unless I am purely introducing myself at that stage. Better to state upfront who you are and be transparent about your thoughts and intentions then break out the agenda later IMO.

PR agencies are constantly taking on new clients and will therefore be new to any given online community or endeavour. That doesn’t mean they are any less adept at understanding the business and how to best connect with customers and other stakeholders through social or traditional media.

Through research and by being a creative and strong communicator in all mediums, my money’s on PR for the People.

Valeria Maltoni

@Elise - someone in the thread mentioned how PR as an industry has done itself a disservice by placing emphasis on promotion. What you experienced has probably been a byproduct of that. It is an education process and it needs to start where the client's at. As professionals, we often take too many things for granted -- I know I do ;)

@Juliana - delegating in social media means giving up too much of the responsibility that rests in house, especially on the day to day course.

@Todd (BuzzStream) - you gave us a money quote! Thank you. A few accelerators that may help: a) listening and observing and knowing what you're listening for.; b) reading up a lot and learning about the industry; c) being sincere and responding, even when the blogger tells you no. I know you know that, the smart PR professionals use "failure" as a way to advance the relationship.

Valeria Maltoni

@Phillip - I see it more as a matter of ownership. In the same way you live your brand, you live your interactions. That's the beauty of it, if you give it away, you won't get it back. PR agencies have the potential to take over all thought leadership development: helping clients think through topics by canvassing the conversation landscape, and package it in public-ready formats. So I wouldn't count them out, just yet. They need to see their own capabilities and redirect the energy/resources to them.

@Kelley - not at all. Always a pleasure having you here. I want discussion, that's what helps us think through issues. I love PR, this is all love. Truly. It's the best door into social media for an organization that has a hard time admitting its own name in the mirror in the morning. Seriously. We can use a swift kick in the pants, though.

@Rebecca - I could hug you. In fact, I plan to send you this response by email as well. Thank you for drawing attention to the term "failure". Failure is good, it's our friend. As you yourself said, we're all learning. When do we learn the most? I'm not harsh and I'm not judgmental; it's an observation that allowed us to have this rich conversation. Ah, I wish I got even some of that ingenuity and humor in the pitches I get. I'm jealous now. When I refer to conversation this is what I mean, getting to know each other in the course of exchanging ideas and content. By all means, don't chit chat me if you're on assignment. In fact, be brief and to the point, and I will, too. Personality and passion are amazing resources and allies in this business. If you believe in what you're doing it comes across. It's like when you smile on the phone. I can feel it. That's the conversation I'm talking about. No going through the moves. Strong communicators are priceless. Glad to have met you in such nice circumstances.

Rebecca Eras

@Valeria - Thank you for the reply and personal email as well. :)

I have given a lot of thought to what failure means to me and how important it is to not get hung up on the negatives of a situation and/or its outcome. It’s easier said than done, however. Fear of failure and the judgments that can come with it can be hard to ignore. But to feel alive, I think, it’s important to take risks and act. Inertia is not fun; momentum is! If we meet with triumph or disaster, then we ought to treat both those impostors just the same anyway and keep going!

I'm glad to have met you as well and look forward to exploring your posts and learning more about your thoughts, observations and experiences.

Oh and I love when I can hear a smile through the phone too!

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