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Bobby Cintolo

Very interesting take and perspective on how we influence people, thanks

Jack Lynady

Who was the greatest influencer in the history of the world? Be honest now. You may not like the answer but it can not be denied. You want Klout model your life after His. Period.

Valeria Maltoni

@Bobby -- thank you for stopping by.

@Jack -- I have no idea what your comment means.

Debra Gaynor

Interesting perspective. Are you only talking about influence within an organization? If you're also referring to brand marketing I'm not sure I agree. We (Marina Maher Communications) are about to release a study that shows a cascade of news and ideas from brands to consumers through several tiers of influencers -- and then an echo effect back up to the brand. Unfortunately I can't share details yet but I'd be happy to send our executive summary when we're ready to release it. Let me know if you're interested.

Valeria Maltoni

Debra:

aside from the fact that I actually don't say what influences people from a marketing perspective in this post, and that I would not be talking about something I have not built and done for years, was the purpose of this comment to tell me about your study? In that case, may I suggest a more relational execution?

@mediasres

Great photo choice for the post.

Frank Strong

It's a great post Valeria. Love the Paul Revere analogy; it makes the word-of-mouth concept crystal clear. Duncan Watts' conclusion is interesting -- though I want to dig into that a little more -- it reminds me of the butterfly effect.

Scott K Wilder

Some good food for thought. I like how you highlighted the fact (or at least alluded to the fact) that different internal stakeholders in organization might have a different idea of who influencer is. And his causes all sort of issues.

Great to meet you yesterday,

Jack Lynady

My apologies Valeria. Looking back at my post, it was a bit ambiguous. I think you would agree a significant way to press into this "influence" dialogue is to look at men and women of influence down thru the ages. What made them tick? What was their effect? The most influential person ever in humanity is no question Jesus Christ. Dude had serious Klout. We could learn somethings from looking at how he lived. ;)

Ted Wright

Hi -

Geno Church (Brains on Fire) and I have had several interesting discussions about WOMM and the historic record of lives of both Jesus and Buddha when we were trying to think of who was the first and also the most successful WOMM practitioner. As an aside, it's also a very interesting parlor game to apply the various modern WOMM measuring schemes to what we know about the spread of both Buddhism and Christianity.

While I'm here, let me segue into use of the term "Klout" as a noun or adjective. "Klout" is a proprietary system to measure someone's online influence. It would be interesting to know if the two people who used “Klout” as a word in their posts worked for that company. It would also be interesting to know if Jesus or Buddha have much “Klout” given that the company would measure Jesus’ or Buddha’s ability to get people to perform an action based on on-line conversations that they have.

Finally, Duncan Watts work is highly suspect as he built both the model and assigned the assumptions that drove the conclusions. Everyone knows you can create a computer program that will spit out any conclusion that you want. The years of real world data generated by firms like MotiveQuest and KellerFay contradict many of Watt's conclusions as does the real world WOMM success stories of brands like PBR, Crocs shoes and Google.

Looking forward to future discussions.

Thanks,
Ted Wright
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Jeff the Sensei

Hi,

Interesting post, but i must admit i am little lost on two things: Theory of the Few and True Influence.

I do agree with Ted in that Watts theories and methods are highly suspect.

Influence is probably one of the most complex human conditions we know and most people only scratch the surface on understanding it.

I would be curious as to your further explanations on the first points.

Cheers and thanks for the thinking!

Jeff - Sensei

Valeria Maltoni

@mediasres -- glad you enjoyed the choice.

@Frank -- although Watts research is held with suspect, his observation does add to the conversation on true influence.

@Scott -- good to have the opportunity to connect. Organizations would run more smoothly if interests were aligned, even with differing points of view.

@Jack -- I'm sure it was crystal clear in your head, we do that sometimes ;-) The problem is that people consider influence something you are vs. something people confer you within a specific context/situation/circumstance.

@Ted -- the use of the company name, as I wrote in my last post, is twofold a) it's a good name, which means people will use it as a shortcut to mean clout; b) they were first off the gate and got lots of conversations going, so people transfer the concept to the company. Something I observed with other brands in other conversations over the years. Signs and symbols are used as shortcuts all the time. I'm really glad you're pointing that out, because a lot of modern conversations about social are highly suspect in the same way... glad you fund the exposition here compelling enough to join the conversation for everyone's sake.

@Jeff -- and scratching the surface we do on most issues that affect the human condition. True influence does not reside with just a chosen few. Hope this helps clear things for you.

Geoff Livingston

It's interesting because Gladwell tried to apply the Weak Ties argument to social change on the web with his controversial New Yorker article. Yet research from Pew is showing social networking provides stronger ties for people, and the recent Tunisian Revolution -- by revolutionaries, not Twitter -- also demonstrate the stronger ties online. Point being, Gladwellian influence theory may need an update.

Valeria Maltoni

We were discussing it in the context of the new generation recently. Natives to technology do not distinguish between face to face and online connections as much as we did. In fact, they consider those interactions to be as binding and important as those offline. Hence my caveat in the post. The other reason why those concepts need updating is the group behavior. We'll keep peeling back the layers in this conversation as we approach the live interaction.

Daniel Blackmore

Nice take on influence.

Nitin Mayande

Tautology cannot replace proof. Though what you say sounds good why should it be believed? Reliance on the definitions of fictional writers like Malcom Gladwel and using research (Watts) that falls flat in the peer review does not add credibility. I guess what I am asking is that is this post based on your research / study or is this your worldview based on your experiences?

Valeria Maltoni

@Daniel -- thank you for stopping by.

@Nitin -- and technology cannot replace humans. You are free to believe what you want. I find your use of the term "credibility" fascinating in light of the fact that you offer nothing in return. Critical thinking is built upon exploration of ideas, and indeed facts. Where is your data? Where is your willingness to exploration? Illuminate us. Lead. This is a blog post, not a thesis. I wrote a thesis, there is a big difference, don't you think?

Nitin Mayande

Thanks for inspiring, I will write a series of blog posts in the spirit of sharing and exploration and will share them with you.The conversation shall go on.

Nima87700

Hello Valeria,

As promised here is my blog post:

Best Regards,

Nitin

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