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Howie at Sky Pulse Media

This story proves yet again the phrase I coined: Social Media is a Revolution in Interpersonal Human Communication Technologies.

It is about people. This story would never happen if Urban Outfitter's caught Stevie copying one of their designs. It wouldn't be on Twitter or Facebook. Social Media is not about Brands it is about people. It is why the hardest place for Brands to Market is Social Kedia because we have no proven after 2 years of failure we don't want Brands in our Social Media. We might want a very small select handful that meet what Seth says is a Tribe of big fans. But 99.999% of Brands out there we don't want to interact with via Social.

As for influence I still view it as a myth. It is much more powerful on the negative side than the positive side for brands as this story proved. If urban outfitters had a really hot new ring a few people will find out via social (without Blog/Media Coverage helping). Meaning I see this great ring and take a picture upload it to Twitter and Facebook some people will see it. If I do the same and say 'They stole my design!' all my friends will go batty retweeting/sharing which will reach the 'community' like Stevie's.

It's the same rule of thumb we have in B-School. Make one customer happy they tell one person (now with social it's 10) make a person unhappy they tell 10 people (now it's 100 or 1000)

Stephanie Smirnov

Hey, Valeria, great point -- we don't always focus enough on what happens *after* the tribe has spoken. I like the image of the power defaulting from the tribe back to the -- uh -- bad guys unless the tribe is organized enough. But I'm wondering in the UO case if what the tribe accomplished was enough -- they stirred up a maelstrom of discussion that put UO's business practice in the spotlight and (from what I read in Amber's breakdown of the situation) pulled the offending necklaces from all their stores. Isn't that enough of an accomplishment? On a related note, I think the UO formal response was badly handled -- came across as defensive and utterly without accountability.

Valeria Maltoni

actually, there is documented evidence that we spread the word about great experiences with higher frequency in word of mouth situations -- which is where conversations more easily lead to conversions.

See data in this post http://www.conversationagent.com/2011/05/return-on-complaints.html

The problem is that brands continue to either a) hire inexperienced people for social; b) tie their hands behind their backs when that is not the case.

Valeria Maltoni

It was a defensive move -- both pulling the necklace and the response. Companies get what they pay for and allow. We will be seeing a lot more of this kind of situation because organizations continue to think "tools and technology" thus hiring junior staff or "new marketing channel" thus getting an agency to work on activation stuff when it comes to social media. No strategy.

Great customer experience comes from great experience. Period.

Gina

Great example of why brands need to make listening a high priority - and have a plan in place ahead of time for responding when stories like this arise. These are the very kind of stories that "go viral" because of the emotional David and Goliath twist that brands need to be most concerned with.

Lesson learned for UO?

Hannah Law

Thanks Valeria - your outline of 3 reasons why "what" is more important than "who" will be really valuable for helping clients and my team understand issues management online.

For UO, this was definitely a chance to turn the criticism into an opportunity to talk about their philosophy and highlight the great work they do in terms of supporting artists (if they really do - there are conflicting reports on this!). From this point, they should develop a sound issues management plan so they are better prepared to respond quickly, appropriately and in-line with their brand & online strategy if (and when) a similar incident happens again.

Judy Gombita

After I referred a (marketing) Twittermate to this PRSA member's article in Business Week:

http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/content/apr2011/bs20110427_477428.htm

that individual referred to reputation management as "an [effective] TACTIC of MARKETING." Sheesh.

Valeria Maltoni

Brands are tracking their mentions, not yet demonstrating they are listening. This was no exception. How long does it take to track a buyer down and ask them? Wasn't there a process documented anywhere about the necklace line in the first place, was there?

There is a feel good component to the community calling these kinds of things out. However, without an agreement from the company that it is changing its business practices, it becomes an instance of being caught.

UO is one of the few brands close to home. I met Glen Senk a few years ago and liked what he had to say. It's hard to believe the company would have changed so much since then.

Valeria Maltoni

it will be interesting to see what they do. So many businesses are unprepared to deal with issues they create. I'm feeling like a broken record for saying this. It starts with 1) hiring the right people - go for experience, going cheap may turn out to be costly; 2) working with the right agencies - go for those who have an understanding of business, not just the tactical shops, or you end up with no strategy to hang your hat on.

Poor execution on the two points above is the reason why so many experienced professionals are running their own business these days.

Valeria Maltoni

that's alright, MBA programs don't teach selling, nor do they generally help with the other "Ps" in marketing besides promotion.

As for PR, alas it has built a reputation for helping clients with free publicity so they don't pay for ads... there are many serious and skilled professionals, of course.

Generalizations are hard to make. However, I have been called to clean up the work of agencies and consultants too many times and know that, right or wrong, companies often end up paying dearly for downright unskilled, inexperienced, and unprofessional deliveries in their quest to save a buck up front.

Jgombita

I agree that the majority of (so-called) "PR agencies" focus the bulk of their time on marcomm (or marketing PR); but there are other firms (or at least divisions within) that specialize in reputation or issues management.

Regardless, reputation management is hardly a tactic, let alone something that should be given to the marketing department to handle. (After all, marketing really focuses on a single stakeholder: persuading customers that they want to buy the company's product or service. Public relations deals with a variety of stakeholders on a variety of programs, issues and varying levels of relationships.)

Michele Price

Valeria this just gives real life examples to what we have said for a while that social media is a leveler, it gives power back to the every day person.

Corporations might want to rethink their mindset and attitude around how they participate period. Not just in social media but how do you participate in the world.

Social media is just the tool that allows the spread of the message/conversation. Who are you being as a company inside and out.

Stop taking cheap way out and setting up alerts, have someone be responsible for real conversations giving a depth that consumers want anyway- to be real- to be heard-to be respected. All humanistic qualities that smart businesses will embrace.

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