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RaynaNyc

Great topic. I've always believed that great customer service is a way of upselling (and a smart marketing vehicle). Of course it must be authentic, and relevant, but when you have a good experience with a brand (even when in response to a bad one) it can have a lasting effect. More the reason for companies to take a more serious (and ongoing) look at all the customer touchpoints and their training to better empower them to 'upsell' customers.

Dan Perez

I find it rather funny how bloggers try to make the whole point of their post based on one company (usually Zappos). It's rather easy to attempt to upsell a customer online, the way amazon.com does it. From the longtime customer who loves and trusts the brand to a first-timer, they're upselling - trying to get you to buy more. You can dress it up with all the marketing-speak you want, but that's what it is.

It's become rather easy for social media marketing pros (a large percentage of which never worked a day in their lives in sales) to reintroduce concepts like "reciprocity", and to talk of "developing relationships with customers". One factor you're overlooking here is convenience. It's easier to just hop on amazon.com, look for what you need, read a few product reviews, and buy it (with free shipping on all orders over $25!). Is that reciprocity or convenience?

As a former Salesperson, Sales Manager, and Director of Sales & Marketing, I tend to frown on these rather simplistic approaches on selling. Amazon.com has a 15+ year presence online and they have been innovators as an online marketplace. But the life insurance salesperson usually only gets one attempt at the sale, same with the car salesperson, catering salesperson, etc. For them the upsell is critical to making a living. But the successful ones know that listening first, then offering solutions builds trust which leads to "earning the right" to offer additional products/services. How do they know this? Because books have been written on this going back almost a century.

If you're gonna talk about something as important as upselling, give me more than just amazon.com, that's all.

Valeria Maltoni

I find it interesting how bloggers try to make the whole point of their comment that they know more/do better than the author of a post without considering their body of work. You don't need to read a book to be human and kind to people, Dan. Listening and offering support are two key characteristics of smart and experienced salespeople -- both are missing in your comment.

Valeria Maltoni

authentic and relevant are winners in any kind of communication. I would also add appropriate to that, which requires a bit of emotional intelligence.

I like your additional thoughts on touch points and resources.

Beth Harte

Dan, as usual you can't see the forest through the trees in your on-going efforts to be a curmudgeon in the social space. This is about marketing and being customer-focused, not social media.

Perhaps you should have a chat with Don Schultz who has been discussing reciprocity for almost 20 years. Peter Drucker also discusses this concept. They've been around a long time...but that doesn't mean companies get it.

Like I have told you over and over the reason there aren't more examples is because most US-based companies are product-centric (like your sales comments, which are based on inside-out thinking).

There are only a handful of customer-centric (or testing the customer-centric waters): Apple, IBM, Amazon, Cisco, LaFarge, Starbucks, Lego, GE, National Instruments, Kraft, Zappos.

Becoming customer-centric is one of the hardest things a company can do. It means putting customer needs ahead of pushing products/services just to make a sales goal.

How about reading up on these concepts before setting out to bash them? Then perhaps we can have start to have an intellectual conversation.

Here's a few to get you started:

Outside Innovation by Patricia Seybold
IMC: The Next Generation by Don Schultz
The Outside-In Corporation by Barbara Bund
Reorganize for Resilience by Ranjay Gulati

Cheers,
Beth Harte

Sahail

Hello again.

I do think that the only reason I go for an upsell is if my experience as a customer has made me (that old fashioned concept) 'happy'.

If I like what I've bought and enjoyed being sold it, I'll be open to buying again.

This means being treated with respect all the way.

Does this make sense? I think it's been the basis of good business for decades.

Sahail

Dan Perez

Valeria,
Not quite sure what your point is. I don't think I stated anywhere in my comment that I knew more or was better than the author of this post (you, yes?). What I did say is that I actually was in corporate sales (for 10+ years) which I feel entitles me to speak on upselling from a more one-on-one perspective. As for your body of work, I've read your "About" page but I've become rather underwhelmed lately by the terms: thought leader, author, & speaker.

As for listening and offering support, that's exactly my point (if you read the next to last paragraph). Sorry I didn't agree 100% with your post; I thought it was a rather weak example of upselling. But don't worry, I'll probably be the only one...

Valeria Maltoni

I fail to understand the correlation between my experience and this statement "read your "About" page but I've become rather underwhelmed lately by the terms: thought leader, author, & speaker."

You are not entitled to anything, you must know that qualifying a need is the best way to sell.


Valeria Maltoni

respect used to be part of human relationships, a pity that it's now an exceptional experience.

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