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michele price

CLAPPING LOUDLY

Valeria I have had many of those conversations with myself. While it was beneficial and produced results, it will not scale as you put it until women are willing to be honest, upfront and stop bashing each other behind their backs.

Yes we are edited out, we have been through out time. Which is why is it called History not Herstory. And for those who want to take offense to my pointing that out-if it is not a big deal or not true then there is no problem changing the word.

There is power in our thoughts and words because they lead into our actions. So, Valeria what is the first conversation you and I can start? We will be the change we wish to see.

Ealbrycht

This post resonated with my experience. I think this is why I put a lot of time into mentoring some of my brightest female students. They are dealing with the added complication of international environments. Here in France it is terribly difficult. My students tell me the first question they are asked at job interviews is "Are you married?" Second is "Are you planning on having kids"? Young, single women are not wanted - too much risk of maternity leave later. Ditto for married but childless. Then married with children (too much demand on your time). Then the minute you turn 40 you are too old. And there are plenty of "toos..." in between. Frustrating.

I like your approach of changing the conversation...I struggled through it myself, and now I try to do so as a mentor and teacher. I can at least help my students think through their options, help them frame their presentations, and introduce them to others. I do this for male students too, of course! But I have a soft spot for the ambitious young woman, struggling to get started.

Sean Rox Schoff

Valeria, I've been reading your blogs for quite some time and appreciate your approach and perspective.

I believe it's important to understand the issues you raise here do not only apply to women and not only at Fortune 500.

As a 40 year old male with 23 years in tech/communication and 15 specifically in web, it's whole other issue... disenfranchisement.

PRO TECH CLASS RISING.
The technician is rising and they don't like it. It's a anti-tech thing. We're supposed to shut-up and get off social networks and "do what we're told".

Additionally, there's a new generation of "everyday goldstar, soccer-kids" entering the workforce with an iPad in their hands whom see established communication professionals as a waste of money. They simply don't understand how to leverage expertise & technique in lieu of shiny new apps.

PROOF, NOT JUSTICE
Seeking justice in our environment isn't helpful. In my case, only starting over with my own business with two week notice is my only option professionally. I suppose, now it's time for each of us to step-up and prove our theories and practices are better solutions.

peace, love & barbecue,
seanrox

Valeria Maltoni

I am more of a doer... ;) Which is also why I rarely talk about these topics. They lead to polarizing discussions and opinions based upon assumptions.

The way I see it is there are too many ready to just pick up the crumbs, and never questioning why such low self awareness and esteem... or those who are too scared they will be found out and so they never speak up for that reason. As I said, it's complicated. I don't buy into the "this group" only of anything. Buckets and lists are convenient excuses...

Valeria Maltoni

I've tested real motives by entering conversations declaring I had no plans to have children. Which is why I know it's a red herring. Ditto, I am involved with mentoring students and young professionals, and have been for years. I tend to favor those who seek to learn, grow, and leave a place in a better condition than they found it - no matter where they come from. It could be Mars, for all that matters.

Valeria Maltoni

yes, forgive me for pointing out the blindingly obvious. Because I am a woman, I've had to deal with that version of the issue. I've had to explain why I was working so hard and not seeking a "protector" (and not the pocket kind) when I was very young, and then have been expected to minimize my smarts or downgrade my ambition because the powers that be had already carved out the riches and the spoils...

Yuricon

Changing the conversation is exactly what is needed. No more "Top 10 Women" this and that. I wrote a post on Quora today that addresses how we each are responsible for framing that conversation the right way: http://is.gd/FM5gsz

Sean Rox Schoff

Yes. And thank you for continuing to accurately illustrate this Renaissance. Or perhaps, the digital Alexandria...

Jgombita

Elizabeth, is it LEGAL in France to ask young (or older) women those questions?! If yes, how appalling, in this day and age.

(Valeria, I've shared this post in the Canadian Women in Communications LinkedIn Group, as well as directly with many female and male friends. I remember us having this conversation when you visited Toronto; great to see you refining it and posting about it. Let's work to move the conversations and writings forward!)

Best,
Judy

Ealbrycht

Jgombita - I am honestly not sure of exact law. I assume it is illegal to some extent, but no one actually complains as they deem it fruitless/harmful to their careers (and recent events surely demonstrate the state of feminism here). That is particularly true of young 20-somethings just starting out.

WorkMommyWork

Just catching up on blogs I missed over the July 4 holiday and was excited to read this. I wrote about the same topic back in March (see “Can Women Have It All?” http://bit.ly/nBDGTb on my blog) in response to a blog on Harvard Business Review’s site (by Sylvia Anne Hewlett of the Center for Work-Life Policy) that asked the question, “does female ambition require sacrifice”? As I said then, as a self-described feminist, I have a hard time thinking of women as victims of their circumstances, but I also recognize that as women, we’re forced to make tough choices and often difficult trade-offs to have the lives we want. The good news is that things seem to be changing and the situation of women in the workplace has really evolved from our mothers’ generation to ours. And while I do think that there are still numerous challenges, I really hope that when my own daughter enters the workforce, the playing field will be more even than it is for us.

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